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 Post subject: Re: Singapore
PostPosted: 14 Feb 2016 20:42 
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Looks like Mick has dodged the draft again - snuck off to the after shit keepers store and hid amongst all the "old junk" as all them rope ends and stuff was called back then! So who or what was a nipper?

Back along when all they had was manpower to do most jobs (you know last year) the capstan would be rigged up to haul up the anchor. There'd be lots o' jolly sailors on they capstan bars, the young inexperienced ones on the outside and the old hands on the inside - why? Because as you trotted around the capstan pushing the bar in front of you depending on where you was on the bar depended on how far you'd have to run, the men on the inside wouldn't have so far to go for each revolution so of course the old hands grabbed that position and left the OD's running like crazy on the end of the capstan bars. But I digress, now the anchor cable (a rope back then actually) didn't go round the capstan, to big and unwieldy for that so 'twere. so instead they had a lighter rope called a "messenger" leading from the capstan forward through a large block or round a post and back to the capstan. So you had like a continuous belt running round the system. Stationed at the front end by the hawse hole the cable came inboard where a young lad secured it with a short length of rope to the messenger and the cable was hauled slowly aft, between a fathom and a fathom and a half a second young lad clapped his length of rope onto the messenger and the cable and ran aft with it, soon you had a line of young lads with lengths of rope holding the cable tight to the messenger. As they came up to the capstan they let go of the line and undid it from the cable and messenger and ran back forward with it again ready to be clapped onto the cable and messenger to heave a bit more in. The short lengths of rope were called "Nippers" as they "nipped" the cable and messenger together and over time the lads who did this job became known as "nippers" as well. As the main job was manning the capstan the big burly (?) sailors were on the capstan bars so the young lads who were comparatively fleet of foot ended up with the "nippers" young lads (12 and upwards) being on that job youngsters ended up being called "nippers" even when they weren't manning the messenger to haul something big onboard. Fairly easy to understand that, can't see were you had a problem Mick! Apart from the fact you were born old and so never got to know the joys of running barefoot alongside a nice big tarred rope - you've never lived me handsome!


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 Post subject: Re: Singapore
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Next nautical question please!


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 Post subject: Re: Singapore
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nearly droped off sleep while reading that..lets get the facts right ,,,I WAS IN THE MODERN NAVY,,, JUST HOW OLD DO YOU THINK I AM..


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Older than me so tha' makes 'e old ya bugger! Mind you they probably didn't "do" history of yer Navy in Raleigh, looking at what they had to work with and the time they had I'm surprised any of you buggers actually got to sea! Some of course didn't - much which was probably a bit of a blessing really! Left us "real" sailors to get on with the job. . . . . .



standing by for incoming! If any of youse gunners can get the bloody thing loaded!


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now then frenchie ,,, no need for that remark...


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Naw, was in the league above Frankie boy! he really wasn't all that good at bowls, always thinking of tides and things! Mind you that was before all you french chappies built that breakwater for us, had to be a bit sharp back then! Can you imagine Cawsand Bay was considered a good anchorage! Handy for the smugglers mind!


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used to play bowls a lot,,mind you it was a long, long time after that drake guy.. :lol:


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used to play bowls a lot,,mind you it was a long, long time after that drake guy.. :lol:


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DT's again or is it just stuttering? OK I know it happens occasionally but it does give us a chance to get back. . . . . .


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